bill, this legislation in the first place. they're trying to put all the blame won him, but it's really with them. >> if they pass a bill tonight, will it work? a big bill, goes to the senate, without demands -- well, it's going to be a softer approach. can they be pushed into that corner ron's talking about? >> ron makes an excellent point. a real practical reality that exists out there and an option for the president. the problem is it cuts both ways. as we've seen from some of the recent polls, the president is trending now 31% for re-election among independents. he's taken a hit here. the question is how do people proceed that given all that's happened over the last two, three week, everybody's got mud on them? does he have more or less mud? the strategy, question, if you get to the point ron described, pulling the trigger what comes on the other side if the house says, no? >> last night, supposed to have the budget director on.